tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6448642816541807526.post2669226892378733293..comments2023-06-16T15:28:45.120+08:00Comments on A Piece Of My Time: The sad state of Malaysian distance runningJulin Julaihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12242656216284610197noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6448642816541807526.post-26391293381122383952016-01-13T17:17:07.209+08:002016-01-13T17:17:07.209+08:00Wow... Your post was straight out of my mind. Than...Wow... Your post was straight out of my mind. Thanks bro.<br /><br />Your points are spot on. We need to have representatives in Tokyo '20 for marathon. And not just to make up the numbers.<br /><br />And we will. I'm sure.<br /><br />And so begins my journey of a sub-2 hour marathon. 01:59:00 in 5 years. Here goes.Ashes to asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02779613065203254586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6448642816541807526.post-85655843232779281972013-04-24T02:26:23.220+08:002013-04-24T02:26:23.220+08:00Mmg bias pun... Bagi saya, walaupun banyak dah eve...Mmg bias pun... Bagi saya, walaupun banyak dah event running kat msia ni, byk tempat masih kurang... Mcm kat area utara n pantai timur... Pastu kalau dlm sekolah cikgu ph ayik suruh main bola je... Suruh lari... Hmmmm 100meter je... Saya kat sekolah dulu asyik corot je... Mana ada cross country ka... Susah pihak sekolah nak organise... Mungkin sebab safety... Takkan nak pusing lengkong padng sekolah je kot... Hehe<br /><br />Dah musim pru13, kalau lah saya jadi yb menteri sukan ke, saya wajiblkan event running ni perlua ada untuk area2 daerah sekolah... Untuk kenal pasti pelari jarak jauh yg berbakat... Anak sedara saya dh masuk sekolah sukan, harap ok la... Jgn pulak masa dah tua nnt isap rokok plak... Hehe<br /><br />DrAminAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6448642816541807526.post-27217507763352693402012-04-17T14:47:03.052+08:002012-04-17T14:47:03.052+08:00well said Wan :) totally agree with u on those for...well said Wan :) totally agree with u on those foreigner runners. Event dekat kampung2 pun diaorg sapu. Why? because the organizer allow them to take part. 'International'.. Wohoo.. thats a good publicity aint it?<br /><br />"Start them early with proper guidance" and proper arrangement as well, like when running even for a short 5km distance, bagi la air bro. They just wanted to get the quantity in an event, not the quality. With such a bad experience during their first run, some might even considered that running is a tough sport, have to endure 5-8 km without water, how to run longer than that? and it happened quite frequent lately(usually with organizers with no experience in this)<br /><br />Be smart. Choose your run :) and one that u can enjoy it, not get suffered or injured.<br />ReplyDeleteChehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17906990590520795905noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6448642816541807526.post-42147194047911734772012-04-16T20:47:08.411+08:002012-04-16T20:47:08.411+08:00Heheh.. even the so called big running events kat ...Heheh.. even the so called big running events kat sini pun fail nak letak proper distance markers kan? Mintak race fee bukan main lagi.. For less than RM100, they can put simple KM markers every kilometer. Kalau nak lagi jimat, letak mile markers every mile instead, RM50 pun cukup. Kalau nak bling-bling lampu neon LED lip-lap segala, kena kuar duit lebih la sikit. Itu pun mau ajar ka? Lagi mau claim international standard. =P<br /><br />This post is meant to be provocative and make us think why we suck at running. I guess people take my foreign runners thingy out of context. I don't mind them coming (to an extent). It's just that I feel really sorry for our local champions. They run fast, but not fast enough. And in my honest opinion, it's kinda too late for our current local champions to go faster. Do a hard reset, develop a new talent base and use them to whoop the foreigners' asses instead. It may take 10-20 years, but I believe we can do it.<br /><br />There's a need to develop local talents the right way. Have you seen local 10-12 year old schoolgirls (not boys) decimating adults in their category? I had the opportunity to race (and fortunately overtook them girls) during a recent 5k-ish race. The girls went on to win the top 3 placing in their category, beating teenagers and young adults alike. What saddens me is (yes, still IS) that no one told them anything about pacing. They went out way too fast leaving me behind early, and slowed down in the middle which enabled me to easily pass them. With proper guidance, the kids can go far. Hopefully no one will exploit them. Jangan dah terer jadi bodoh sombong sudah la. That's what I mean when I said our runners should know what they are doing, understand why each run is run the way it is. Bukan main ikuuuuut je apa orang/buku/majalah/website suruh.<br /><br />There, I repaid your 4 cents, siap keep the change lagi. =)wan wonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03932369330094642014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6448642816541807526.post-34247551798366301102012-04-16T15:20:38.809+08:002012-04-16T15:20:38.809+08:00Wow! This is heavy stuff dude. Too bad I'm in ...Wow! This is heavy stuff dude. Too bad I'm in Monday Mandom mood when I completed this reading.<br /><br />Definitely agree with the distance markers. Years been running and they still sucks at it. Perhaps we should remind them prior to every race. 2 cents.<br /><br />Foreign runners. Keep them coming. Raise their fees, lower their prize money, IN their own categories of course. Then we have a decent competition/comparison in terms of performance putting aside money factor. 2 cents.<br /><br />4 cents already. Sorry, and thanks for sharing the argument. Now I've used up my brain juice for the day.Dikethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07379650533182627277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6448642816541807526.post-24931617488428226562012-04-15T10:56:19.173+08:002012-04-15T10:56:19.173+08:00I think what we're discussing here is the deve...I think what we're discussing here is the development of running as a sport profesionally and not in terms of us as weekend warriors.<br />Elites shouldn't fork out their own money like us to go to those major marathons. They have sponsors for that.Julin Julaihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12242656216284610197noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6448642816541807526.post-79761221393772204612012-04-15T10:31:50.428+08:002012-04-15T10:31:50.428+08:00Hi Ray. It's always great to have a healthy di...Hi Ray. It's always great to have a healthy discussion.<br /><br />"My 2 cents - keep the Kenyans, but do separate category - International and Malaysian. Just like Thais Marathons, both categories will have winners and keep everybody happy."<br />Agree. Set different registration fees for both categories too. =) But do you realize that the Kenyans competing here are like their 2nd-3rd-4th tier athletes? They can't make it in Europe, Americas or even Japan. So why not kick slow Malaysians ass and make money doing it?<br /><br />"If we kick the Kenyan, French, Moroccan out from our race, then the winners will always be "Jaguh Kampung""<br />Disagree. In running, especially at the level we are in now, Jaguh Kampung title is totally irrelevant. If you can consistently do sub 2:30 marathons here in Malaysia, there's no doubt you will break 2:30s in cooler climates. Pack your bags and move to where you can improve. That's what Azizulhasni did, Nicol David did, Novak Djokovic did and other world class athletes did. If you can do it, it means you can do it. 'Where' is out of the question.<br /><br />"If we want to improve, we need to learn from other runners especially international runners."<br />True. But what have we learned from them during races? All I know is we never failed to get our ass kicked each and every time. Learning is done during training. Mistakes should be made during training. Not during races.<br />Really want to learn from them? Get one (or a few) of them fast runners and help develop our own grassroots programmes, without political interference. Those who really know what they are doing. Knowing what is the purpose of each run. Knowing the maxim "train to race, not race to train". Then again, good runners don't always make good coaches. I'm feeling I'm gonna need a separate entry just to rant about this. Hahahaha.<br /><br />"Most of our elites local runners don't have the dough to compete in International Major Marathons, Boston, NY, Berlin etc."<br />Because here nobody cares about running except us. The sponsors can't see their return of investment. Stop talking about the Marathon Majors until 4 minute milers are mass produced. Notice I never said sub 4 minutes. =)<br /><br />"What happened to your original blog WW?"<br />Don't feel like updating. =Pwan wonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03932369330094642014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6448642816541807526.post-57351337384121228292012-04-14T23:23:09.250+08:002012-04-14T23:23:09.250+08:00My 2 cents - keep the Kenyans, but do separate cat...My 2 cents - keep the Kenyans, but do separate category - International and Malaysian. Just like Thais Marathons, both categories will have winners and keep everybody happy.<br /><br />If we kick the Kenyan, French, Moroccan out from our race, then the winners will always be "Jaguh Kampung". If we want to improve, we need to learn from other runners especially international runners. <br /><br />Most of our elites local runners don't have the dough to compete in International Major Marathons, Boston, NY, Berlin etc. Sad but true, congrats for this mind provoking piece of article.<br /><br />p/s What happened to your original blog WW? he heRaYzeefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01213675416793110232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6448642816541807526.post-45232338436057054142012-04-14T21:58:13.375+08:002012-04-14T21:58:13.375+08:00thanks hanim!
hope the messages get through.
dista...thanks hanim!<br />hope the messages get through.<br />distance markers please!wan wonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03932369330094642014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6448642816541807526.post-29105877238712858152012-04-14T21:55:49.525+08:002012-04-14T21:55:49.525+08:00that's the thing. declining instead of improvi...that's the thing. declining instead of improving.<br />something must be wrong somewhere, don't you agree?<br />macam biasa la. always basking in past glories. just like local football.wan wonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03932369330094642014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6448642816541807526.post-4962132665901554142012-04-14T21:51:25.011+08:002012-04-14T21:51:25.011+08:00thanks. just thinking out loud.
still wondering al...thanks. just thinking out loud.<br />still wondering all this time apa la susah sangat nak letak papan tanda jarak tu?<br /><br />dan gaduh-gaduh padahal takde la laju pun.. haihzzz...wan wonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03932369330094642014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6448642816541807526.post-36964896369463196602012-04-14T21:43:00.160+08:002012-04-14T21:43:00.160+08:00thanks. have to find a new soapbox. =)thanks. have to find a new soapbox. =)wan wonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03932369330094642014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6448642816541807526.post-87455245481312279912012-04-14T17:54:15.732+08:002012-04-14T17:54:15.732+08:00a very good post! - hanima very good post! - hanimAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6448642816541807526.post-36576630745045623182012-04-14T10:18:09.779+08:002012-04-14T10:18:09.779+08:00According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia...According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysian_records_in_athletics some track and fields records set in many years ago like in 1968, 1976, 1986 etc has not been break through yet.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6448642816541807526.post-61546103490198365772012-04-14T07:46:56.601+08:002012-04-14T07:46:56.601+08:00Aye aye. Good posting and a great read. Sad but tr...Aye aye. Good posting and a great read. Sad but true aint it?Yimsterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02714414820611667300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6448642816541807526.post-50122853074494726862012-04-13T23:09:25.074+08:002012-04-13T23:09:25.074+08:00Hear! Hear!Hear! Hear!linahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17273605189937933589noreply@blogger.com